Tape 8 of an 11 tape series of Allen Ginsbergs class on Expansive Poetics. Subject matter includes background on Surrealism and concepts of language and the imagination as well as readings of works by such writers as Tristan Tzara, Philip Lamantia, Andre Breton, Robert Desnos, Vitezslav Nezval, Philippe Soupeau, Francis Picabia, and Benjamin Perret.
January 14, 2008 Subject:
Lists- "the acme of expansive poetry"
6: lecture begins, Smart's lamb list poem
8: 20th century mind-jumps of anti-rationality meets list poems. Dada is...
10: Breton's "Free Union" - "total freedom"
12: Lamantia's theory of poetry as imaginative dictation (brain areas discussed) & Critique of Gnsberg's materialist poetry
15:30: Can they both co-exist, where Ginsberg "stepped off a little from Williams' solid ground"
18: William's and archetypal "queezing images into lines"
23: Still reading Breton's manifesto
24: Breton's list of favorite superrealists
27: The two methods of Williams (sketch of fixed epiphany in physical forms) and Surrealism (imagination) whitman/keruoac get surreal in "associative descriptions" -objectivists include non-physical form) "two different distinct schools with two practices"
30: Breton's Free Union
36: Ashberry and non-representational language as a way to whimsy and pump-priming
39: Ginsberg lists useful ways to be surprised or introduce whimsy
42: Kaddish and list poem technique
44: Robert Desnos: "I the voice of Robert Desnos..."
45: "If you have a quick mind, the things you can call up in your list..."
45:50 "It all comes from Whitman"- Whitman as great surrealist/direct perception list
57:30: Other list poems: Waldman's "Fast Talking Woman", "Howl",
1:03: Corso is master of this?
1:07: During the course of writing you touch upon every part of mind, including unconscious.
1:09: Writing as thinking- "What you didn't know you know"
1:14: "causeless joy"
1:15: Short list poems from the French
1:20: "This beauty has an effect on people- it breaks up... cold war"
1:27: "That which liberates the imagination is the only answer to the state" according to the surrealists
1:30: Blaise Cedrares